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Gremlins | with guest Amanda Fuller (Last Man Standing, Orange is the New Black, Starry Eyes)
HAPPY HOUR FLIX is a podcast all about the movies you love and love to talk about. A nostalgic look at what we grew up watching and how they still impact us today.
What is it about that fuzzy...or rather furry, past laying eyes on sweet, dangerous Gizmo for the first time?
Join us on this nostalgia trip as we rewind to the iconic 80s classic movie, Gremlins. Our special guest Amanda Fuller, a self-proclaimed Gizmo defender, takes us back to her childhood experience of watching this movie for the first time - at a drive-in no less!
And of course, from our friends over at MISGUIDED SPIRITS, a unique concoction whipped up by Chadwick Sutton, the Gizmo Sour. Follow along and be sure to make one yourself!
2oz MISGUIDED whiskey
.75oz fresh lime juice
.5oz simple syrup ...or even maple syrup!
that's it - now shake and strain or dirty pour into rocks glass (either way is fine)
Garnish:
2 dashes angostura bitters on top
But oops, you just got it wet...and so the trouble begins!
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Now back to the episode...we dive into the age old question of: is Gremlins is actually a horror film or a comedy? And yes, we wade into deep, deep waters. We dissect the characters, iconic scenes, and the history of the term 'gremlin'. We analyze the movie's intentional stylization, the villainous Mrs. Deagle, and the dubious logic of Hoyt Axton.
We delve into the potential connections to Little Shop of Horrors, the dark themes, and even a possible metaphor for living in New York City. And then there's Kate's emotional monologue about her father's death. And wait, there is a fountain in a candy shop??!! And as always, some bonus trivia about Spielberg's cameo and Judge Reinhold's character. So, mix a Gizmo Sour, sit back, pop some popcorn...maybe not in that order... and join us for this lively chat about Gremlins.
HAPPY HOUR FLIX is produced by James Allerdyce and Lori Kay, and hosted by Steven Pierce and Matt Mundy.
Main Title is by Johnny Mineo.
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It's an 80's movie, obsessed with getting a character wet. Ah, get your mind out of it, gutter, and your hand up a puppet. It's Gremlins. Let's go on a steam movie. Let's go on a steam movie. Let's go on a steam movie. Let's go on a steam movie. Let's go on a steam movie. Let's go on a steam movie. Let's go on a steam movie. Ah, the year is 1984, we've got a nightmare on Elm Street. Chud children of the corn fire starter, temple of doom, muppets, take Manhattan. Today is June 8th, the release date for two of my favorite movies Ghostbusters and today's special episode, gremlins. And today I am here, as always, with my co-host, stephen Peer. Hey, what is up?
Speaker 2:Matt Mundy Gremlins.
Speaker 1:Yes, so excited. Of course, this is one of you guys, this is one of mine. This is a total me movie and I'm so excited about it.
Speaker 2:Alright, I have a confession here I've never seen Gremlins before. Last night I thought I'd seen this movie 10 minutes in. I was like I don't think I've fucking seen this movie. Got 20 minutes in, definitely not fucking seen this movie. So, and here's what I have to say, here's what I have to say, chris Columbus. I saw that name come up in the title, right at the top, and I was like, ooh, this is gonna be awesome. I love Chris Columbus. What was Chris Columbus doing when he made this movie? And this movie is great. I want to say this movie is fun. It is a whole lot. I thoroughly enjoyed it. But a big question here is this considered a good movie? Because I'm really on the fence about that.
Speaker 1:Well, and that is why we brought in our friend and special guest and resident gizmo defender, amanda Fuller. Amanda welcome.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much for being here. Of course. I have to say it was so hard not to do a spit take during that intro I almost spit out my entire fancy special drink. I don't know if it was the wet or the end of the puppet, not sure, but that got me going. It got me going good, good. Thanks for that.
Speaker 1:Well, you're very welcome and, with that in mind, I think you mentioned the specialty cocktail. Yes, our friends over at Misguided Spirits. Thank you for that setup, amanda.
Speaker 3:You're welcome, you're welcome.
Speaker 1:They have indeed set up a cocktail force for this film, and it was designed by our friend Chadwick Sutton and Amanda. He definitely designed this especially for you, knowing you are a bourbon whiskey fan. A gizmo sour. How to feel it.
Speaker 1:Yes. So we take the Misguided Spirits. They're whiskey with a little bit of lime juice, simple syrup or in this case, maple syrup, and then you shake and strain, or you can pour dirty over rocks and then garnish with a little bit of bitters, and we'll have all of that for you in the show notes. So, of course, please head over to the show notes and get that recipe pour yourself one and hang out with us now. So who's ready for Christmas?
Speaker 2:Okay, this movie does any. Okay, is this a good movie?
Speaker 1:All right, Amanda, this is for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm with you, Steve.
Speaker 2:I thought that was going to be a hot take. I thought Matt Mundy was going to come through and like, like, skin me alive for saying that. I am measured.
Speaker 3:I have not seen it since I was three and that's because this was the first movie I saw in a drive-in movie theater. I have three older brothers. I think they were intentionally trying to torture me and I was three years old. It's one of my only childhood memories of being in the back of our Toyota red mini van, like huddled under a blanket, just shitting myself with my brother, like forcing me to look like, peeling the blanket off of me and forcing me to look.
Speaker 3:Into this day I'm terrified of anything that looks like a gremlin, except for the fact that I realized last night while rewatching it that I think one of my dogs looks like a gremlin. Even if I look at my wife, it totally looks like the evil version of the gremlin and Yoda and all the other things that now I know as watching this adult. Like, oh no, I actually love a lot of gremlin looking things Very strange, and I was like I don't know what to do with the time, like, even when I looked up the imagery before we're watching it, last night I got to give it to you and I was like, no, I can't do this, I'm not going to do it, I'm not going to rewatch it. There's no way I'm going to be able to do it and then come to find out not scary at all the movie is. It's not scary, it is comical film. I think there's nothing scary.
Speaker 2:Matt pitched this to me as a horror movie and I was like oh yeah, definitely I know, this is a horror movie. I was watching this like nothing is scary in this movie.
Speaker 3:Nothing is scary. They're just doing pranks the whole time. They're just having a gay old time. The most scary part is the middle of this movie.
Speaker 2:Mom is a force to be reckoned with. She is straight fucking up gremlins Like I mean left and right they're like I mean they are having a huge issue with gremlins. Just release Mom on the town. This woman will just tear them apart.
Speaker 3:I took a note homage to Housewives, because it's like that scene in the kitchen where they're using the blender. I'm just like all we need to do if we ever really are in an apocalypse, is send out the house.
Speaker 2:Billy Boy calls him, and we send him a chat.
Speaker 1:The slap chop will take him down anytime.
Speaker 3:Yes, I mean, they did wonders with that.
Speaker 2:Billy Boy was so worried about Mom that he called home and she answered the phone in the attic. By the way, I just want to say who has a phone in the fucking attic? She answers the phone and he's like be careful, they've hatched. And then now she goes down stround and just straight demolishes gremlins Like just they didn't stand a chance.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was impressive and also comical, because they're not really doing anything to hurt anybody.
Speaker 2:They look like they have a really bright future in construction because they were wheeling with surgical precision that Bobcat or whatever that strict construction vehicle was.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, oh, my God, all the different layers of undertones of story, that character, that guy, what was his name? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Oh, he comes out hot. I counted like three.
Speaker 3:I got a one or two in the beginning I'm like what I feel like if I were to rewatch it with like a historical expert, right, like somebody who knows what they're talking about, they would be able to take all the references and give them so much context, and instead I'm just like clocking them and going what the fuck does that mean? Like what are they trying to say with that, like every two minutes there's another one. I'm like what is happening?
Speaker 1:Well, that's. That's Dick Miller you're talking about. Who plays Mr Futterman? And so yeah, dick Miller and Joe Dante, the director, they did like, I think, nine or 10 movies together. And he, but yeah, and it's crazy because, to your point, he plays the character that talks about and uses for the first time the word gremlin, and and he's also a World War two vet, and World War two is when the term gremlin became.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we have to talk about this because is gremlins? Is this movie and these characters? Are they a reference to that band Looney Tunes cartoon from World War two where gremlins are like flying, like they take down a Nazi plane? I believe.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's a rabbit hair, something hair.
Speaker 2:Yeah something. It's a band Looney Tunes commercial that I'd seen years ago and it's scary as shit. Scarier than this movie, for sure. But, they, they, they're. Like is this a movie Monday? You would know. Like is this movie an homage to that?
Speaker 1:No, but there is a lot going on there, this that I'm going to go.
Speaker 3:Are we sure?
Speaker 1:Are you certain. Well, because one of the references that Joe Dante had was a was the book by Raul Dahl which was called gremlins.
Speaker 2:Oh, no way.
Speaker 1:Now also there is a. There is in the, the movie. You know when, when gremlin, when gremlin, when gizmo is watching the movie and he's like pretending like he's driving a car and he's like yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:It's like super cute. That was originally. What he was watching was originally a Looney Tunes. You know it was a Bugs Bunny and if you look carefully in and you can see it in the probably the versions that we watched recently, when they do the wide because it's in a different aspect ratio, you can see the TV that gizmo is watching and it's not the white movie anymore, it's not the cable film, it's actually the Looney Tunes movie.
Speaker 3:They had noticed that.
Speaker 2:No way, I totally missed that.
Speaker 3:I realized, like a little bit in that, like there was so much television watching and there was so much focus being put on the TVs and I'm like, okay, every single thing that is displayed on a television in the past to have a deeper meaning. This isn't just random shit that they're putting on here. And so I started to like pay attention and I remember seeing that being like Looney Tunes. What is the? So when I said earlier that if I just sit down with a history buff and maybe there would be a lot of insight that I could gather, I, what I meant was if I just sat down and rewatched it with Matt Matt Mundy, I forgot who I was speaking to for a moment. Obviously, you know all of the things and I'm so excited to be talking with you about it because I don't have to watch it. You can just keep telling us all these amazing insights and facts, but you know so cool.
Speaker 1:Keep going, I want to go with the next one. It is just fun because, like I think back to the fact that, well they, it's a Warner Brothers movie. They had the rights to that cartoon but, they didn't. But the Clark Gable movie is not. I think that's not a, I think it's Columbia at the time. So they had to buy their rights to that and I'm like to what end, and like it's, I don't know like certain decisions that they make. You're just like I don't know.
Speaker 2:Okay, can we rewind back to the beginning of this movie? Because I've got a lot of thoughts, guys, I've got some, I've got some tapes on this Falling hair.
Speaker 1:That's the name of the, that's the name of the cartoon that they were watching Falling hair.
Speaker 2:Okay, it is a cool cartoon. I will say I think you'd have to find out on the internet somewhere. Okay, so we have like a music montage. I don't even want to get into the cold open, we're going to get into the dad later. This is I mean. We just can't start there. They go into like his music montage, like a Fra La La sort of like walking down the street. Is this the theater and street from back to the future? Because I am convinced it is.
Speaker 3:It really looks like it.
Speaker 1:And there's a good reason why this was shot on Columbia and Warner Brothers Backlots and and another backlock, that Columbia backlock, which became one of Warner's, but that that exact set that is the same one that later that year was back to the future. It's also where they shot like Tarantula and a couple others.
Speaker 2:But right because of others, because he goes when, when, when, when Michael J Fox drives down the thing and they hit 88 miles an hour and it comes down and we're, and then we now flames, and then we go back and it crashes into a building that is a movie theater, and that is still the movie theater right in the background. I'm remembering that whole sequence correctly. I was like immediately clocked it. I was like that is from back to the future.
Speaker 1:Yeah, amanda, were you clocking that too? Did it look very familiar when you were yeah?
Speaker 3:I totally. I don't know if I lost, I think I did, subconsciously. Yeah, here's a fun fact about me I, unlike my husband, who is an expert in remembering films, and many of my friends and most filmmakers I know, so basically everybody I know in my life but me, I don't have a very good memory when it comes to movies and I can't really like reference anything ever. Movies will have like an impact on me, like in my soul, and I know what they like made me feel in my connection to them. But if you like were to ask me to quote a line or remember a scene, even I would be like oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3:So, that being said, I did still have a feeling. I was like, and I do think I like imagined back to the feature in my mind. So I'm pretty sure I can jump on it and say, yes, I crossed it, but I didn't say those words out loud. So but yeah, but also with all of the sets, like I feel like the whole time I was very much aware of how familiar all of the sets looked and how also blessed this time of filmmaking, the no judgment whatsoever but how clearly they were built, sets Like none of the most setting like set face film I've ever seen in my entire life.
Speaker 3:It was so much like a facade. It was so clear that they were like facades and empty but like and of course, being someone who's been in the industry my whole life, like I know that looked very well because I've been on set my whole life. So I don't know if the average non-industry involved human would be able to see that, but I feel like in this movie it would be very clear that like they weren't real buildings, they were using, like this movie for sure was fucking sponsored by Ace Hardware, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like there there is like somebody going in there and be like we've got lumber. Look, it's right there behind that wall.
Speaker 3:I can like see the like plywood and the nails coming out of, like the metal framed doors you know what I mean. So, which I kind of enjoyed because it did make me feel nostalgic for that time period of filmmaking, but also, oh my gosh, it's very just so unrealistic and comical. But yeah, I do. I think I definitely felt some back to the future vibes in that scene.
Speaker 1:And there's a good reason why you felt that and you and that you were both going well, why it's so obvious. It's a it's a back lots here, right, yo Dante? I thought this was, I mean to me this was one thing I thought was a really great direction for it. He thought well, because the gremlins were so weird-looking and they didn't look like real life he thought that having the whole look be a little bit more stylized too.
Speaker 3:It was intentional sure.
Speaker 1:They would seem more real in an unreal world, yeah that's a good point. And I thought that was, and so, like he, I listened to a commentary where he said that, because they didn't want to hide the fact that they were back lots that he wanted it to be it's a wonderful life meets the birds Okay.
Speaker 3:Sure, there we go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure, 100%, I get that.
Speaker 3:That's correct I feel like we're getting points in the direction of guess this is a good film, then yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean-.
Speaker 3:Because if all of these choices were intentional oh, and I want to be clear-. I want to be clear I enjoyed the shit out of this movie.
Speaker 2:I had a blast watching it. I'm just not saying I'm going to start voting for it, for, like you know what I mean on the AFI's 100. I'm just. You know, this movie is awesome, it's a lot of fun, it is just. It's also the right mixture of batshit, crazy and quality-. And just logical and quality experience in filmmaking so that you can you know you can relax and enjoy some shit to laugh at, but at the same time it's entertaining, like it's entertaining. It doesn't take me out, it's just fun.
Speaker 3:I love it 100%. I love rewatching and.
Speaker 2:Mrs Deagle. She's the villain right. They set her up in the beginning. She comes to the bank. Also, this kid's taking his dog to the bank. There's lots of things going on in this community, but she Hiding under the cubby yeah, hiding under the cubby, mrs Deagle, and then she wants his dog because he, like, did something sort of-. I mean, the beginning of John Wick 4 was less intense than or John Wick was less intense than this Like she just wanted to like kidnap and take his dog-.
Speaker 3:And torture the dog? Yes, oh, then putting him down at the pound would be a much easier fate for your dog Like. What are you threatening to do?
Speaker 2:It made it super hard for me to be angry at the Gremlins whenever she got rocket launched out of her own house later, Like just because.
Speaker 3:I was-. Oh no, that was a celebration for sure. Yeah, exactly, they should have set off fireworks.
Speaker 2:That was a wicked witch of the west like kind of they used wicked witch of the west music I wrote down right here it's like Mrs Deagle is the wicked witch of the west music, like they are 100% that woman. They took that from the wicked witch of the west. They had to have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's pretty-, can we?
Speaker 3:talk about the staircase, speaking of like when they throw her up the staircase it doesn't end the staircase. That is the tallest house I've ever yeah, I've never heard of in my life, like it just kept going and going and going, Whereas you cut to the outside, shot when she flies out of it.
Speaker 2:If that staircase was real, what you see on the inside, she'll be flying out of the 14th floor of that building. And then you cut to the outside and it's like home alone. It's like you know it's just a good old colonial and like Totally, and she just goes right out the front. Oh, so good.
Speaker 2:I will say the scariest part of the movie and probably the most graphic part of the movie, is when they let her land on the ground and you see the legs of what I assumed is the dummy right you know, hanging over the chair. But they launch her out of the house and then they leave it. They just leave it too long, like you're just sitting there watching. It's like Jesus Christ, those are legs. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:I miss that. That must have been a moment where my son was coming in and I was trying to pretend like it wasn't a scary movie that I wasn't experiencing.
Speaker 1:But he called enough of it that he wants a gizmo stuffed animal Puppet.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think I like a gizmo puppet. Oh, okay, starling. Yeah, no, he was like enamored by the fact that it was scary and I think was like challenging what he would. Yeah, oh man, I really hope I didn't star him.
Speaker 2:No man, I mean gizmo is adorable, it's all about the and it's all about the intention.
Speaker 1:What you described is very. That's the intention to frighten you.
Speaker 3:You were showing a, you know yes right, as opposed to me, where I was like honey, it's a scary movie. Are you sure you want to? Okay, I'll unpause it. Oh, this part gets scarier. They're just it's all pretend, like I'm giving him full context, but he's not. But still, I don't know, you never know. He did say before nap this morning or this afternoon he said no Gremlins in here, and I said no, no, no, there are, but they don't exist, they're not real, they're pretend. Oh shit, I'm like I'm inside going fuck what?
Speaker 2:Yeah, when movie watching fucks up nap time and you're like what have I done?
Speaker 3:What have I done?
Speaker 2:What have I done?
Speaker 3:We'll see time will tell Okay back to now.
Speaker 2:We gotta get into the cold open here, because they go in. This guy starts with a voiceover, never come back to it, Not even a central character.
Speaker 3:He's dead to the end. He's dead. To the end. You do it, gremlins, wondering your end. I don't like to throw any actors under the bus ever, so I shouldn't even say that because I'm about to, but that just feels wrong. But I have to be honest and we're dissecting the film. Was he the most lifeless? Was that the most lifeless performance you've ever seen on stream? And like, especially with a justice position of how campy and out there the film is like? He's just like. Why is he an?
Speaker 2:inventor.
Speaker 3:Why is he?
Speaker 2:an inventor. What does that? What possible bearing does that have in?
Speaker 3:You guys, there's an inventor convention on Christmas Eve. What?
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3:I know we're jumping ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's great.
Speaker 3:I just think, popping in my head, I can't. I remember being like what? Oh, he can't make it home because of the inventor convention.
Speaker 2:I mean, aside from it being a shitty inventor.
Speaker 1:We'd have it on a different night. That's what they should do.
Speaker 2:Right, if he's going to be an inventor, any other 365.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if he's going to be an inventor, he has to be a shitty inventor, like that's obvious and that's fun. And his inventions are actually fun. The fly swatter with the drill, like the smokeless ash tray, which is just an ash tray with a little sliding door, I mean that stuff's great. Like I was all in on that the bathroom buddy or whatever that you kept. When he first said it I was really scared Because he said it in the cold open and I was like where are we going? It's like what are we doing here? Because I don't know what the fuck this is going to be. And then it ended up being very charming.
Speaker 2:But OK, you can do a lot of different directions, oh yeah, the name itself does not lend itself to what they ended up with. Anyway, I just want to say he was so comes in looking for a. I'm trying to sell some gifts and find a gift for my child. Now, I'm not a professional screenwriter but seems to me if you have two things, you know what I mean. It's like whenever you got caught in high school and you know you come in home late and like you're running in the door and your mom catches you and you're like, oh shit, oh mom, I was trying to make it home but I had ran out of gas and a squirrel got ran over across the street and had to go save it and then take it to the vet office. Like it's just like one, two, many things. Like just do one thing. I'm here looking for a gift for my kid. Boom, we're done, that's it. Awesome, I'm an inventor. I'm here to sell some shit.
Speaker 2:Oh, what is this amazing thing? I might want to buy it. Either one works. Is that store of all places? Yeah, of course. I mean obviously. And then the kid Lisa.
Speaker 1:there's lots of little funny things in here, but we have to get into the heart of the matter here, because this is more really Well, let me just say, hold that thought, because I do know that this open reminds me of Lord of the Rings, and the reason I say that is yeah, whoa.
Speaker 2:I give you some quick blast. What, what? Ok, let's get into it.
Speaker 3:I don't even know how to respond to that.
Speaker 2:I got to say Was it the enormous dragon fireworks? I mean what happened.
Speaker 1:I'm telling yourself.
Speaker 1:Yes, I shall explain myself, and it's not with the terrible joke of the dragon breath that he used, but it is the fact that when they got to the beginning of Fellowship and they realized that they didn't have an opening, that whole voiceover and everything was a very late addition to bring in the one ring to rule them all section. And it was because what they had wasn't working. And, to your point, steve, what they did was they did one thing, and that was they said that one part of the entire inscription and they did it well. Well, joe, dante, with Joe, because you know we're buds and they had another they had another opening and there was no voiceover.
Speaker 1:That's why you don't. It doesn't really make any sense at the beginning or the end. And it was he's shopping last minute for his son because he doesn't have anything and he just didn't like it, didn't like it, didn't like it. So they went to I think this is Universal's back lot in that scene and they were like, oh well, this guy, this is Hoyt Axton, he's a songwriter and he's got a great voice, we'll just have him talk. And then, to your point, amanda, it's like, it's like they shoved the words in front of him and he's like there was a time when things happened.
Speaker 2:So that performer was a musician.
Speaker 1:Yes, so he was in.
Speaker 2:Well, there's your explanation.
Speaker 3:I mean that is he. Did he go on to do any other acting?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean he's myself, he's in the. He's in the big chill.
Speaker 3:Oh, he's like a known actor and I'm totally, I'm totally, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry he's not, he's not in the big chill. He wrote for the big chill. But sorry, that was not your question. You mean as an actor. Sorry, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:He did have some acting credits and they were like, like, like I think he was in Bonanza, but he was basically playing, but I'm not shitting on like a cult legend or something Like no, I mean no, unless we don't like his music, like he, if you remember, Joy to the World from. Forest Gump, that, that version of Joy to the World, or Joy to the World from the big chill. His mother co-wrote songs with Elvis.
Speaker 2:So he's a musician, though, but that's the thing is like he's a musician and they just like the sound of his voice. Like I could get that. I mean his, his voice is very interesting.
Speaker 1:It's got a very warm tone.
Speaker 2:It's very technically interesting.
Speaker 1:But the reason I was just to kind of bring it home and then go go back to what you're saying is they. They immediately had to make a change at the end. But then, whereas one of them worked really well, the other one just felt so ham-handed, ham-fisted, it was just like what, and it did. It sounded like a musician was handed some music. Well, rather, some words instead of music.
Speaker 3:Without music.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, and said we've got two takes and you only get one.
Speaker 2:Well, you can't hate. I mean and that makes me feel a lot better about his performance, because I mean you can't ask somebody like that to open a movie with voiceover. I mean that's just that's fucking hard. You know what I mean. That takes a takes, quite a craft this guy probably didn't have, I heard.
Speaker 3:I have more beef with the rest of his performance.
Speaker 2:Just like every scene he's just, he's just, he's just the most laugh-tazical. Guys, I have this note, I'm just gonna dig this. I mean, I'm just gonna blow it up right here. Hold on, I gotta dig it, I gotta find it. But this is like this. The men in this family, billy Boy and Dad, are fucking dumbasses. These guys are completely useless, like completely useless humans.
Speaker 3:They're lifeless and like discrepancy between in terms of performance in this movie there's such a huge discrepancy with nobody's doing the same movie. I feel like Like like they're actors that are like, oh my God, it's so scary, I got that first name. And then they're actors that see the grammar like oh, what's that thing? But we've never seen any creature like this ever before. And you're acting like you're seeing a dog on the street, Like I do not understand why you have no reaction to this cute little gizmo, as if it's like like there's no reference whatsoever to what is this creation of a living creature that we've never seen before in our lives. Like they just accept it as like that happens every day, like there's just dude, that is my note literally here, that I'm all over.
Speaker 2:The place I'm digging into is like who gives a mysterious found in a Chinatown animal. First of all, you fall in love with something and then he then takes it home to give to his child. So this is a first fall. I'm into the cold open right and I'm watching this for the first time and this guy's in there and he's like yeah, all right, I have to find a gift for my child. Oh, this is the perfect gift. And I'm like already that's a little weird because nobody knows what this animal is and like whatever. So he's like but my kid, he'll love this. And I don't know, I'm late and I don't have a gift for him. He's like I'm picturing like an eight year old. Right, you know something, you have to get a new puppy. And then he walks home and he gives it to. How the fuck old is this kid? He's gotta be the lead actors movie has to be at least 22 years old.
Speaker 3:And he's like he's 21 or 22.
Speaker 2:And he's like thanks, Papa, Like what the fuck is happening. And then halfway through this movie, his best friend is like a 12 year old. What is happening?
Speaker 3:But also the only and, to this point, like the only, I feel like the kid Billy. Is that his name Billy? I don't believe that. I think it's.
Speaker 1:Billy, yeah, billy.
Speaker 3:Billy and the girl, his love interest. I feel like they're the only teenage, like there's no in the town. I feel like there's no. I don't know why I feel this way. I don't know if this is actually true, but there was like no other aged kids anywhere and there's not even any other teenagers or anything Like. I feel like there's only two, three, including Corey Feldman's character, like kids in this entire town and it's strange that the girl and the guy are the same exact age but there's no reference to any other kids. And then Corey Feldman, who pops in there and yes, and he's the best friend.
Speaker 3:He's my favorite my favorite face acting with an animal I've ever seen.
Speaker 2:I wrote this line down. The dad said in the cold open I have to get this for my son. I was pictured an eight year old. This character has fucking credit card debt. I mean, you know what I mean. Like you don't have to get this for your son Also. He has a dog, they also. He already has a fucking dog. He has a pet. He has a pet. Why do we need? This weird as new pet. That was so disrespectful. Yeah the poor dog. Justice for the dog.
Speaker 3:So well, by the way, he didn't even bark at this thing. He's giving it kisses, all that pooch.
Speaker 1:Oh man. And then they say hang him in life.
Speaker 3:They hang him in Christmas. Oh, I almost exploded.
Speaker 1:I have a big animal cruelty thing, so that was, and we see that dog was mushrooms, by the way, was his name and was great name Mushrooms. Stop. Totally. Thought that Gizmo was real and looked after him and would lick him and was very In real life. Yes, like every time, cause there were a bunch of different sizes, oh my gosh, I'm gonna cry. Gizmo was of a certain size because, like originally, gizmo becomes Stripe and so so Gizmo was. Stripe so they.
Speaker 2:Better choice what they ended up doing.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I liked it. I don't know. I liked that. He was good the whole time. I have to.
Speaker 2:No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:That's the trick.
Speaker 2:No, I like that. Oh, good point that they kept it. I thought you meant, I thought you meant the other one. No, no, no, no, the way it ended up, this is a better choice. That Gizmo is always a good guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, I think so and so like yeah, I think. And that's. That was Steven, by the way, or it's Spielberg who said I want you know, we need to. This guy's cute Like I want to follow him, but of course.
Speaker 3:Can we talk about it as a Spielberg film? I'm sorry I know I keep interrupting, but when I saw Spielberg at the top of it I was like what? It's a Spielberg film. I'm not nervous, but I think that he wasn't the director, even though I do love Chris Wanda so much. Anyway, back to your point.
Speaker 1:Sorry, no, it's fine, I'll circle back and tell you more about, like, how he got it too, but like he, please. So it was originally supposed to be. You know, gizmo becomes Stripe. So Chris Wallace, who is the designer he had, he just worked on the howling, or no, sorry, what was it? Anyway, because it was Joe Dante that had worked on the howling, but this is the same guy that later went on to do the fly and some other like amazing stuff. So he's the straight up designer of Gizmo and was not meant to walk around or run, so that Gizmo and they did have like two feet wide, like when you know all the close ups they do of Gizmo, those are, those are separate puppets that they built and his face is two feet wide.
Speaker 2:Wow, yeah, so the puppet work, we have to say, is fucking awesome, awesome.
Speaker 3:The best Incredible Love it so much.
Speaker 1:Incredible.
Speaker 3:I miss the days when that was all we had for special effects and film.
Speaker 2:Absolutely incredible. I mean they do like to go down with the sorry. Keep going, matt.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's OK. All that is because I'm bringing this background to mushrooms is he couldn't, so his body wasn't built to do much. There weren't that many versions of Gizmo in the small. So he was to that Gizmo. So Barney, would think, is his name in the movie. Barney knows him and is very careful of him and there's that moment where Stripe, before he becomes the Gremlin Stripe, throws up yeah, A very weird brown liquid.
Speaker 2:It was not, not Barney, yes.
Speaker 1:Well, and they had to do. I don't know how many takes they did, but they had to keep Barney from protecting Gizmo from getting hit with the vomit.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, you're killing me. This is killing me.
Speaker 1:I can't and then I will say one of the producers to your point, amanda. One of the producers was very quick. I think it's Mike oh gosh. He's also worked with Joe Dante forever, but he's the one, one of the producers that brought on with Steven Spielberg and Kathleen Kennedy at the time. He was very quick to point out that the harness that he's in was very safe and he was like everybody, like mushrooms, was very happy he's. You know it's not, you know it was.
Speaker 2:When they hang them from the Christmas lights.
Speaker 3:And I thought he was protected.
Speaker 1:But I immediately thought how much of this are you saying, like the Lady Duth protests too much?
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure, oh no, it's like definitely 1980s movie, Like they're totally fucking fine and we've got like a rope on them. What are they going to do? I mean, he's fine.
Speaker 1:Exactly. But anyway, all that to say. Like she or no, I think Barney was a boy. Barney thought they was real. So did Phoebe Cates. Phoebe Cates was apparently very not didn't think they were real, but apparently it was very terrified of the Gremlins on set. Like while on set, just did not want to be around them.
Speaker 3:OK guys, Really I have notes here from my watch last night.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying as we got to this part of this movie where we're talking about like where they get they first for the first time, really get the gizmo wet right. These are my notes. I just realized that I saw. This is like this thing breezes in water. Exclamation point His friends do not look friendly and then, oh boy, this is not going to go well.
Speaker 3:And there's the whole synopsis, there's the log line.
Speaker 2:Yeah, really that could be the log. I have a theory about this movie and tell me what you guys think about this. I think that this might be the sequel to Little Shop of Horrors, Because at the end of Little Shop of Horrors they have a guy that comes in and he wants to buy this mysterious plant that's breeding and going everywhere and put it in every home in America and that's what the dad is saying. He's like every home in America needs one of these gremlins. And now the gremlins are like breeding, like crazy and like going out and they're trying to destroy the world. I think that's the genesis for this idea.
Speaker 3:OK, so not the sequel, but the genesis of the idea.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's a loose sequel.
Speaker 3:Because it's not a plant. The gremlin is definitely not a plant.
Speaker 2:What if an alien being came down here that had ultimate goals to destroy our planet and humanity, and it bred exponentially and got moved into every home in America?
Speaker 3:That's my kind of pitch Totally. And what if everybody that met the thing just went oh yeah and accepted it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:And they're all along.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 3:And so it starts making Franks all over the town, which is life or death? Yeah, no, I could see that for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that makes sense, because I mean, at that point the only one that was out was the one with Jack from the 1960s, and so that little shop of horrors was then. 1986, was the musical, so that was two years after this. But the movie itself, without a musical, did exist with Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 2:And that was yeah, you're right, and that was the one where they all pop out of the pedals and stuff.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh and it's soup. Yeah, exactly, so there could be. I know Christopher Columbus, it was his second.
Speaker 3:You're on the something.
Speaker 1:He was still an NYU film student at the time and from what I read that he had hurt, I think in his I don't know if it was his apartment or his room, whatever they at night would hear the mice in the wall welcomed in New York and that it was just the gremlins for him. The idea was the idea that when he was at home he couldn't see them, but then when he would be away and then come home and the lights were out, he'd hear them all scurry and that was kind of like the Genesis. But I think and like everybody knows, it's like it's well known now that that original script was meant to be stupid, dark.
Speaker 3:It's all just a metaphor for living in New York City.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'll go with that.
Speaker 3:Well, it's a very long metaphor With the suicide at Christmas time. Talk on Christmas Eve and we find out how her dad, I mean, can we talk all self?
Speaker 1:about all of this?
Speaker 3:Oh, OK, let's oh yeah, can we go there Please?
Speaker 2:Amanda, go, yes, go for it, go for it. We got things to say about this. Let's go.
Speaker 3:I mean out of all the times to bring up Converse. I have to say it's one of the parts that I maybe liked the most because I have a very dark soul. So when I'm strolling in this picturesque Christmas Eve moment and she was just talking about the suicide rates, I'm just like, oh, this is a different movie I'm watching, but I'm into this movie. Maybe we should just go back to that direction. And then the monologue of what happened to her father.
Speaker 4:That monologue that should be framed and put up in the fucking Smithsonian.
Speaker 3:Dude out of all the time to decide to reveal that information. And then it's like the darkest of the day, it just keeps going. It's like, ok, we know that we're going to find out that this dad died, that's bad enough. Oh no, he died while pretending to be going down the chimney holding the present. And then that's how I learned there was no Santa Claus, that is fucking killer.
Speaker 3:killer I mean there was no, there were no more layers to it, but like that's as far as they could have possibly gone, the moment they admire them for it.
Speaker 2:The moment that monologue started, I was like, oh, we're doing this.
Speaker 3:Here we go yeah.
Speaker 2:Where it went, didn't sit coming, didn't sit coming, they kept consistent. They kept consistent Christmas theme Didn't sit coming, and then they can't, and then the kids out of.
Speaker 3:I don't, I'm sorry, the timing, the misplaced, all the different movies that are being done, and then the fun to be. I have to take my hat off to them.
Speaker 1:I have to say I have, I have, I have to tell me because I do know I want your opinion on the kiss, because, like I made a note, when it happened I was like is there a scene missing?
Speaker 3:because it's like she.
Speaker 1:it's like he leans in to kiss her before he goes into battle and I'm like, well, she's already kind of kicked a lot of ass in the bar and I do. You got lucky with the one sword.
Speaker 2:This is what I'm talking about. How old are the characters in this fucking movie? Because he's a. He's a sex character, like they're in the relation. They're a sexual interest. He's a sex.
Speaker 3:Sex. Is he a sex worker?
Speaker 2:I stand by my statement. They're a sexual relation Like they're sexually interested in each other. Right, like they're romantic. Hey, how about that?
Speaker 3:Here's another word. It's my first day with English. They put them like a millimeter away from each other in the bank in the very beginning.
Speaker 2:Oh, ok, it's a romantic, it's a romantic interest. Sorry, it's my first day with English. It's it's. It's a romantic, it's a romantic relationship.
Speaker 2:There is sexual interest between these two characters, but in the beginning of the movie in the beginning of the movie, his dad is buying him another pet to bring home his best friends. A 13 year old and I'd even if it was like cool, she runs a candy shop or something. No, she's a fucking bartender. How are you like? How old are these characters? She's a bartender like throwing people out. He is like working in a bank, but has a best friend as a 13 year old these characters are batshit crazy ages.
Speaker 1:Wait a minute, wait a minute. So so basically, the father was like. I don't want to teach my son about the birds and the bees, so I'll give him an alien to overtake the earth. That's. That's basically what it is.
Speaker 2:If that's what this movie means to you, matt Monday, I'm happy to go along.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because he's like my son, is obviously of a certain age. He's going to be romantically. Let me just see. No, we're sexually interested.
Speaker 2:Use the right words. Use the right words.
Speaker 1:Person and and instead of, like you know, it's supporting that age, that you know, the appropriate ageness of my son, I'll bring him another pet as a way to say please don't engage with another human.
Speaker 3:that's dangerous, because that means I'll have to tell you about the birds and the bees and if I think that you're, I think that you're giving way too much credit by trying to put these things together. This is not a puzzle that becomes complete at the end.
Speaker 2:Dude, I don't, I don't think you can get any credence out of the relationship from dad. This guy's a weird inventor and down to he has no gauge on his relationship. Like down to like. Again, another fucking crazy invention. They have the weird coffee thing in like the kitchen and this mother is a saint. This woman should be on a fucking stamp for like Mother's Day because she's trying to make coffee for herself after she's like holding this weird man child family together because God knows how old her son is. He either needs a nap or he needs a fucking condom. It's impossible to say.
Speaker 1:I was going to say, yeah, she's actually trying to make her coffee.
Speaker 2:This coffee won't fucking work. And she doesn't. Just she comes out smiling and being like oh, I love your inventions, Any normal human on the planet would be like go to the fucking store, give me a black and decker coffee maker.
Speaker 3:When the phone thing doesn't work and he and he clearly on the other line says something like why don't you use in the walkie talkie that I invented? Like he's like furious about it because she's like, oh no, it just I was. I was running in like her, her intention, and like desire to keep him like at peace and at bay the whole time. I really actually I think, if we're going to make metaphors the New York City thing, there we go. But also maybe it's just about what Roxas mothers are like.
Speaker 3:I want to take one thing I can bring home. The one thing I can bring home.
Speaker 1:Only tell me about the mom I want you to like, like even if you can't think of any other moms in other movies, or if you have a hundred listed, like talk talk to us about her as a mom in this movie, talk and what, like you know, like just go.
Speaker 3:I mean, she's the only, she's the only sane character. She's the only character that actually makes me sense from the beginning. I mean outside of the fact that it's, you know, dated to a point where, like, we can really go into the fact that she's just pleasing the house, like it's, it's the stereotype of the house, like the stay at home mom that we've been fighting against our whole lives, but at the same time, she's the only one that can kick ass in the way that she does. She's the only one that, like, like, shows up when we need to and has any sort of like logic. I mean, she's the most solid character of the whole thing and yet she's. So I feel like there had to have been some sort of intention from the screenwriters for that Like that. Had they had to have been aware of that, and then celebrating moms and or something, because I don't think that those are coincidences. I'm not going to be able to reference the whole bunch. I'm completely with you.
Speaker 2:I will say as a mother myself, like yeah, like the moms are.
Speaker 3:Moms are going to be the ones that are going to stay at the end.
Speaker 2:Dad, dad and son all about her honestly are completely fucking useless, like the son Billy, billy. Ok, we got to also get into the candy shop fight here at the end because I'm just going to skip ahead, because I'm just going to skip ahead and like every possible story.
Speaker 3:If I walk into a fucking candy stop in.
Speaker 1:Wayne Reed. It's Wayne. Reed, it's not a.
Speaker 2:Dwayne Reed. I'm going in here to buy cotton candy and a couple of juju fruits and somebody's throwing fucking saw blades at me.
Speaker 3:I'm getting the hell out of this place Like I mean all the things, they have everything, and then there's a full fountain.
Speaker 2:There's a full fucking fountain in this in this candy shop.
Speaker 1:No, it's New York, it's Zabars. That's what it is. It's that we're at Zabars you know, they have a hardware on the second floor and they have cheese and olives and fountains in the middle.
Speaker 2:Yeah fountains 100 percent.
Speaker 3:I, if you told me I can see them in the writers, like writing going how are we going to get water in there? Oh, let's just put a fountain in the middle, exactly Big. Let's do a water feature.
Speaker 2:You know what this place has, this small town next to the small movie theater, which has one bank. You know what this fucking candy store has? A goddamn water feature it has a really good level.
Speaker 3:It's done like a water park adjacent to it, like all of a sudden they like went next door and they're in a water park, like that.
Speaker 2:I feel like I would have liked that Also again, I'm not a professional screenwriter, but you know what every house has in the Midwest. Every house in the Midwest fucking has a garden hose or a sprinkler. There are two pretty good options.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God, it's too good. The the lengths they reach when they didn't need to. It's too. It's too good, I have to say dude, I'm going to go ahead.
Speaker 1:You brought up the movie theater again and that does remind me like there, so there's some interesting things here that they had to do. I want to go back to, like you see at the beginning of the movie that this is a Spielberg presents, right.
Speaker 3:And then the Indiana Jones billboard, sorry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Like immediately there's a, there's a total reference. I was like wow, they couldn't hit that, were on the nose Like OK, you know Well.
Speaker 1:So from what I understand and this kind of cracks me up is like so, when this, this script got passed around and he initially just you know, it's Christopher Columbus, a second script, but he's still in school Didn't think it was going to get made. I mean, that's the rumor anyway. He didn't write it to get made and Spielberg actually liked it and, of course, had ideas about it, and part of that was why it's not so dark, aka what we just championed, which was this mom. She gets killed. In the original script she gets decapitated.
Speaker 3:Oh. So instead they changed it just her being shipped off to some at home doctor and saying, quote unquote, one had a little bit of an accident. Yeah, after she was attacked, that was instead of killing her, they were like, let's just like, pawn her off to someone at home, it's done. But instead of being like there is an alien creature attacking everybody, we don't know what's like any sort of actual contact. He says mom's had a little bit of an accident. What a perfect. I think I pause it to take that that moment. It's the wrong team in my core. I can't deal with it.
Speaker 1:So I don't have a lot of like direct. I have circumstantial evidence to support this, but I think this movie is without a better term to use. This is a Spielberg pet project, and what I mean by that is I see you, All all the little things that he wanted he had to get you know, so he got a budget of like $11 million. When he finally went to the studio, he went to Warner Brothers. And.
Speaker 1:I was like wow, that was which is obviously, I mean, that's still not a lot of money, but he only got, you know.
Speaker 3:I'm used to making movies for like a hundred thousand dollars, so I feel like that's a lot of money, especially no fair. That's just me. Oh yeah, I'm like what? What is the guy on the?
Speaker 1:other mic, you know definitely.
Speaker 2:We all know Matt Mundy is supporting big budget movies. That's really what he's like.
Speaker 1:Look, I mean, I'm not a professional producer, but if I were, then that's why they call him Mundy Fundy. Mundy Fundy.
Speaker 3:Oh, I haven't heard that one before.
Speaker 1:Yes, mundus Profundus, the is is. They did that, so they had to do like.
Speaker 1:the producers had to do a lot of things to keep Spielberg happy or to basically do things so that he wouldn't give them a lot of rewrites, because they knew that they didn't have a lot of money for the rewrites, you know, or redesigns, so like Chris Wallace. So Chris Wallace, for example, was like well, I've got this design of Gizmo, but I don't have a lot of money to redesign it, so what's the, what's the best way to make sure I don't have to redesign it? I'll make it the same color as his Cocker Spaniel, and so he did. So it's the same color as his Cocker Spaniel.
Speaker 3:And then like Spielberg's Cocker Spaniel yes as Spielberg's Cocker Spaniel so because he just like knew that he would like it, because it has like a personal.
Speaker 1:Oh and things like the. They would reference his movies, like you saw, with yes, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then what was the other one in the movie Like, oh, this one made me think of it, steve, you had mentioned again the movie, the movie theater, and the marquee there is at the beginning, and it is funny, this movie doesn't take place over a long period of time, but the marquee changes. But I can't remember what it is at the end at the top of the top of my head, but at the beginning, when he's, you know oh, I know what it says at the end.
Speaker 2:If you got the beginning, I got the end.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, ok, it says a boy's life and watch the skies. I don't know if you notice that that's. That's a reference to a boy's life is ET and watch the skies as close encounters, and so. Wow. So this was like little things they were throwing in to be like hey, Just to feed his ego.
Speaker 3:Yes, if anything, I would think that might backfire, like if I were Spielberg and that were happening, I'd be like don't reference, just in case this doesn't, you don't do all the things I want. This doesn't go well, which I feel like was a very large possibility with this film. I'd be like don't reference any of my fucking movies. I might not even put my name attached to it, like the fact that that went in their favor is pretty I'm I'm impressed.
Speaker 1:I guess that's. I guess that's because that's what I mean by it being his pet project, like he loved this, like he really wanted to do it. He was going to do it without the studio at first and then was like, oh, I need money. So that's when he went to Warner Brothers and asked for money.
Speaker 3:So interesting. Wow, yeah, fascinating.
Speaker 2:You know what they're watching at the end, right. Yeah, oh, that's no white, no white because they get raptured in high fucking ho. They, all the gremlins, come together to sing high ho I. It was fabulous, I loved it. That was the that was. I literally laughed out loud when they were all turned off.
Speaker 3:What's the metaphor, though? Because I also clocked it, but I'm not that Monday.
Speaker 2:I don't have a metaphor for that other than it was fucking great Right.
Speaker 3:They had to have been trying to say something, no that they're laborers. The fact that oh no.
Speaker 2:I'm not. This is a worker. This is a workers union movie.
Speaker 3:Yes, sure, anybody yes. Well, OK, here's the thing, See, there's something right, or no?
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, there is absolutely something.
Speaker 2:There we go, jesus Christ, I can't wait.
Speaker 3:I can't wait. Yeah, we're ready.
Speaker 1:All right With that kind of buildup. It's, it's.
Speaker 3:There's nothing, it's the fact that's pulling it out of your ass.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not even pulling this out of my ass. I'm saying that it is absolutely unclear, except for the fact that they're short, and that's it. That is it. That is it. That's it. Like there are there.
Speaker 3:So they're just all small.
Speaker 2:Wait, a second Is there are there, are there, are there. Are we backing this up with anything, or is this just a Monday theory?
Speaker 1:There's nothing. This is a Monday theory, because there's nothing else in the movie that's short, except for them, and that they're just like excited to buy that Short and they sound kind of like them Sure. And they did, and they love music. They love to sing. Remember we get this from Gizmo early on doing the music and they also speak English whenever it's appropriate, out of nowhere what? Out of nowhere, out of nowhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was one of the craziest things.
Speaker 3:What I don't know. You spoke English, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, exactly. It's so good.
Speaker 3:It's so bad, it's good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love it. That's that's. And that's exactly where I was like. I was trying to figure. I knew I was like there's something magical about this being snow white and the seven dwarves, and I couldn't come up with it and I was like, wait a minute, this entire world is tall people to them and they are destroying and everything that the tall people have, except here they are. Here's the dwarves in there. It's like like which?
Speaker 3:is, which is why they couldn't have the main kid be eight years old, see, because then they'd be around the same height they had, totally, that's all totally tracks. I'm just saying there.
Speaker 2:They're really stretching. Billy Boy is stretching like a ten year gap here of comfort, comfort which is not not not comfortable. Did you guys notice that Mike from fucking Breaking Bad is in this movie?
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah I was like oh, that's that's one of the one of the cop guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's one of the cops? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I was, like you know, looking out in the car he's like what is this?
Speaker 3:Yeah?
Speaker 1:deputy deputy Brent man. I love it. Jonathan Banks, I would love a world where these exist continuously.
Speaker 2:Like. They're like a thing, they're a single world. This is what made Mike hard Like, because you don't see shit like this in in in New Mexico. You know what I mean. Like in Albuquerque. I've seen some shit in in small town upstate New York, which is, I'm guessing, where this is set. Did they give a setting for this?
Speaker 1:Well, they call it. Oh gosh, what's it called? Kingston Falls? The back lot, the back lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the back lot for sure, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1:King, it's Kingston Falls which. Those scenes were also stock footage, from Back to the Future as well, wow.
Speaker 3:Where is no shit? Where is Kingston Falls? Is that a real, real place?
Speaker 1:No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3:This is where I comment section blows up.
Speaker 2:Guys, who was our? Who was our? Racist, like American guy that hates everything foreign?
Speaker 1:Butterman Dick.
Speaker 2:Miller, Dick Miller. He has a line in this movie. It's like I told you we should have gotten a Zenith. I was like that fucking line aged well, really, really well, His TV would work. The teacher character no, no, no, that's our racist, that's our, that's our guy on the track. That's the guy on the track.
Speaker 3:Okay, but talk speaking of racism. Is it true? Or am I not remembering that the black character does die first in this movie as well?
Speaker 2:He's the science teacher, I not track that he died.
Speaker 1:He died? I think he died first.
Speaker 3:He's the first one to go, yeah.
Speaker 2:Did he die? Oh my.
Speaker 3:God yeah. He like they show him under the desk Like I mean it looks like he's gone yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh well, apparently the original version of that was all the syringes were in his face. That is no joke.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's, that was some commentary I heard yeah. I'm sorry to have gone there, but let's just call it.
Speaker 2:No, I mean you gotta call it spade, of spade for sure you talk about that so easily.
Speaker 3:Holy shit Wow.
Speaker 1:Wow, I hadn't thought. I mean that didn't, yeah, and I'm like hold on. Was he the first? Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3:Cause.
Speaker 2:I remember last night.
Speaker 3:I think it was a part of the movie before I passed out and I was like uh, that's when Bill calls mom in the.
Speaker 2:You know, on the on the regular character to die. Yeah, that's right after that that Bill calls mom on her. You know regularly used attic phone of like hey mom, they've hatched.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:The, the, the. By the way, you have like a pull down ladder to access.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's not like a finished attic with like two beds and be like this is a really nice rustic guest room. No, no, no, they have like cobwebs and shit, but no, they have a working phone. You know, just in case, just in case you need to. You know, yeah, call and get a repairman.
Speaker 3:Venture off from the fact that they killed the black guy first.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, that's, that's what I strive to do. I strive, I strive to.
Speaker 3:We don't need to get too much in the daughter. It is what it is.
Speaker 1:No, but I mean it's. It's also my team at four were in the middle of it Like.
Speaker 3:I know, but as all the films like, not that it's okay in any film, but the fact that this film, which is not more discussing, it's a real horror film, it's more like a comedy than and then anything. Now that I've revisited it, don't tell my three year old self that, because she definitely was convinced it was the scariest thing a whole time. But the fact that it is like this kind of campy, like really was that I'm putting my foot in my mouth, but it just wow, like I just can't. Even I can't, I can't believe that in this movie as well, they fricking did that Wow.
Speaker 1:I just think of all the things that we've been having fun with today. That is absolutely one of the most like, like eye opening moments, because it's like, yeah, of being a movie of its time that couldn't get out of its own way. Right the tropes that were so accepted, wow.
Speaker 2:That's a really great example of yes, and I want to get back to also the women in this film, because this is like the only two people that ever really fuck up the gremlins are mom and bartender girl. Unclear how old she is she might be 16. She might be 24. Really unclear. I will say this.
Speaker 1:She calls herself the girl. Like I listened to some commentary of her and she goes hi, I'm PBK, it's. I played the girl and I was like oh my gosh, because her name is Kate in the movie but they don't really use it and I'm like I wonder if that was just an afterthought. I wonder if the script said girl girl and then they named her.
Speaker 2:wow, interesting. Making a comment, or that seems like also something that you know you might that somebody might say in commentary, being like, yeah, I was the girl because, like, as this is a movie about these guys and they didn't give a fuck about me, you know what I mean? Like that.
Speaker 1:But both could be applicable. The only two people that have like a high head count on this, on this thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 100%, billy boy. You know, I was like I'm manning the bar before, dude, I mean also, she's running a bar and then the Gremlins come in and they're obviously fucked up and she keeps serving them.
Speaker 2:I just, and I mean just, and go in and go in, and go, I mean, and that was like such a serving Futterman, early too, that's true, I mean, but I will say that they were like making such a thing about these Gremlins are really fucking this place up and I was like this looks like a normal St Patrick's day. I mean, she's definitely seen this shit before. Like it's just weird clientele. But also bartender you've seen weird clientele.
Speaker 3:Like. The beauty of that sequence to me, though, is I think it was just that the puppeteers like yes. Having a great day. Like they were just like OK, let's do every version of the thing that we can, let's do. All these people I actually just like, really really reveled and enjoyed that sequence because of how much they had fun with that. Like it's disgusting, but like it's an absolute blast.
Speaker 3:Every possible tableau that they could with these gremlins, turning them into actual caricatures, and and she's just like to that character's credit, just like, if you said, serving them and the using them in any way that she can. But but the funny part to me is how comical it is. There's no threat, really, like they're a nuisance. They're like like you're saying it's the same, like they're, you know, ruining the bar or whatever. But there's no danger, there's absolutely no. Like nobody's getting killed here, they're just smoking cigarettes and playing cards.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:I don't know the one that was going to say the danger, the danger I saw until the gun, I don't know. Right, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:There is a gun. There's a gun in this movie.
Speaker 3:Why is there a gun in this?
Speaker 2:movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because they had to. They had to after should the credit of what I was just saying. They had to then turn it back to them having some sort of threatening manner. Right, because they do that whole sequence. They have to. You can't continue with the film. If that's the case, they have to then have one. That's going to be an actual threat. They put a gun in there and they shoot it off and it just misses her and then all of a sudden, we're scared for our lives again, like I guess it works. I don't know.
Speaker 2:But fast forward to the candy store slash, hardware store slash like greenhouse slash or patio or whatever the fuck it is. But I just want to say Billy is like, hold on, girl, go find a light switch, which I will say there is a light switch in this fucking place. Right, I was like I would. I would scan every part of this wall. There is a light switch in this place.
Speaker 3:But instead she goes to the house.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she goes upstairs and into the thing which has like straight up aircraft level sophisticated board. Like you have to know that. You know you have to memorize like 30 switch combinations to get the fucking lights on which is hilarious.
Speaker 3:No, but not even just that. Then she has to break into the breaker Right and then she rips the break and she's like literally like blow barring, and you're fucking telling me that at this, this at this store which has so many things.
Speaker 2:there has to be a coffee shop in here somewhere, If they have this many variations so they have to open it, probably a bakery too. So that means they're open to like three or four am every day because they do everything You're telling me. Somebody walks upstairs, takes a screwdriver, pulls this panel off, pushes four or five switches to turn the fucking lights on. Like that is not what I just don't buy it.
Speaker 2:But they sell them, but they don't have that it's exactly that we sell them, but we've not yet installed them here. It's too new of technology. But I will say Billy Boy finds a, finds a baseball, baseball bat and starts going after Stripe Right, there's one, gremlin left Stripe.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, gremlin, come Stripe, comes at him with a chainsaw, right. After he gets chainsaw of all time, after he shoots him with a crossbow, which is I was like holy shit, he shot him with a crossbow. Then he comes at him with a chainsaw and builds defense is a wooden bat. I got bad news for you, dude You're going to fucking die. That is not going to stop that chainsaw.
Speaker 3:But he's fine, because the chainsaw just goes at it back and forth, back and forth 100 percent and then, they come to think of it, and it does chew it down a little bit.
Speaker 1:What you guys aren't noticing was that bat was corked so he couldn't get through the steel pipe that was in the middle of the bat.
Speaker 3:Got it? I don't know. So these people are also. They're not, that's how they're beaten.
Speaker 2:Everybody's. They're cheating. They're one candy store, but if you go far enough back, you can also buy a plant, and that's how they're really keeping it open.
Speaker 1:They're not licensed for this. I'm defending the undefendable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're not licensed for this, but you know there's. But then and then she flips the lights on and that kills everybody. Bill, effectively, is useless in this movie. He doesn't kill a single Gremlin, he's a total useless piece.
Speaker 1:He kills the one. He kills the one, he kills one. How every decapitates the one that's with the sword back at home.
Speaker 2:That's strangling mom, ok after mom fucks four or five up with straight up household items.
Speaker 1:Oh, and not only that, there no, so here's, let's, let's bring it all back home. These are all the appliances that don't work. These are all the appliances you have to assume, even the microwave because the only thing we've seen are the, the dad's inventions, or throughout the kitchen. And the next thing we know? None of the first, none of them work. And the next thing we see, when they do, we're killing.
Speaker 3:I don't know about that, because it's a microwave which is not dad's invention and it's like a mixer, which is not been established as one of his and like and the blender right, I think the one with the blender and all of his inventions are like the juicer, the egg cracker, the phone, like lightsaber, like all of those things. So I don't know. I think that it might be the opposite and they might be saying all of the things that dad didn't touch in this kitchen. They look like things that she knows with Amanda here.
Speaker 2:They look like completely functional items, dad did not design a blender.
Speaker 3:And a microwave.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I think, I think, I think that's the point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, I completely agree.
Speaker 1:I will say, like not to go too meta, but the whole movie is about gremlins, right, which is about getting into things to mess them up and like the. All these inventions are already messed up and like that, like the gremlins were already in them as he invented them. They didn't have to wait to get messed up Like he invented them, and they're terrible, meaning he put the gremlin like the gremlins were already in there. Anyway, did that?
Speaker 3:make sense. So what is can we? Can we get, like, get into what you're saying, because I forgive my brain and how it doesn't work in depth sometimes. So what is this reference? What is the Gremlin World War II? I know we touched upon it like is it from the Vanzolin regimes, like all that stuff. But what does that mean? What are they saying?
Speaker 1:So it was a term first used in World War II and it was specifically about planes, anything that went wrong on a plane. Okay. There's like a Gremlin got into it and that they would blame these monsters called Gremlins that got into the plane A hypothetical, there's no actual.
Speaker 1:yeah, this is just like something they pull themselves up, okay, and there's an amazing Twilight Zone. That is a wonder of my reference of this and it's, yeah, and it's one of the first starring roles of. Oh my gosh, I should give back my anything. I can't think of his name right now. The Kirk, captain Kirk, no, shatner, patrick Stewart, yes, no, no, no. Oh my God, what did I just do?
Speaker 2:No, you were right you're just the next generation.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, okay, good, oh you, but like, yes, it's off so many people.
Speaker 1:Bill, so Bill Shatner, Billy Shat.
Speaker 3:Oh Billy, oh Billy, oh Billy.
Speaker 1:It was one of his first roles and it was in a Twilight Zone episode and it's about a Gremlin.
Speaker 3:No way.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh, I wanna watch this. Yes, anybody who's not seen it? Also, the Simpsons do one of my favorite episodes, and A Treehouse of Horrors. I think it's like season four and it's the exact same thing, but it's on a bus instead of on a plane, and anyway, that episode.
Speaker 3:So the idea is just things that get into. Yes, things that get into things, that fucking stuff. That's what you were saying, yeah yeah, now I get it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause it was. That was what a nightmare, at 20,000 feet or something like that, was the original episode. But, yes, what gets into your things and messes them up, which is why, like, their whole thing was to call mischief and get into things and messing up Right right, which isn't an actual life or death threat.
Speaker 3:It's no interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to mess them up, Unless you're a mom with a knife and then you put them in the appliances and mess them up.
Speaker 3:Wait this just reminds me, though, of the moment where one of the grandmas I think he goes to is it Billy? When Billy is like lying down, like useless at some point, and one of the grandmas like runs over and just like claws at his chest and then like runs away yes, yes, yeah, billy is completely useless Like what I was like why they're just like come on, haven't they run away? I'm like, oh, there's not even a fight Like they're not even trying to fight or like that.
Speaker 1:No not at all. I laughed at all. Oh my gosh. So all right. So, as we wrap up, I do want it. There's two cameos in this movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we've got to talk about Judge Reinhold.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's not even a cameo. Oh shit, Dude, how old is Judge Reinhold?
Speaker 2:Again, no one knows how old they are. In this movie Judge Reinhold has a line I've just got to slew that he says he's 24 years old. Judge Reinhold is easily in his 30s in this movie and he's yeah, he says that I didn't clock that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I wrote it down. I wrote it down. I wrote it down. I wrote it down because I didn't remember his name when I was watching him. I said the guy from Santa Claus is 24. In this movie His character is he's at least in his mid 30s and then he uses a line on a woman. He says come on, he's like trying to figure out if he come over to somebody. He's like come on over to my place. Come on, we're talking cable.
Speaker 2:And I was like that shit drives me nuts, yeah, but it was like a line and something was cool and, like you know, the only place you have cable anymore isn't like the hospital. You know what I mean. Nobody's watching cable, like you know they.
Speaker 3:It's just the exacter. Whatever it is we saying is like oh definitely, yeah, yeah. I don't know about it.
Speaker 1:They definitely set up the factor very well on his character.
Speaker 3:But also another useless character, right, because he just disappeared after that, yeah, he disappears and he's only there.
Speaker 1:So that when Billy asks Phoebe out because it's both to Phoebe, like he asks Phoebe out at the bar Right and he's only there, to contrast. So when when Billy asks Phoebe out, it's much cuter.
Speaker 3:Yes, but did nobody notice that, like one of them is maybe her age and the other one is clearly a creepy older guy, like what that's supposed to be, like a competition? I did not.
Speaker 2:No one knows any ages of anyone in this movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but Judge Reinhold is clearly like the older creepy bank, like co-worker. But he says in there he's like I'm 24. It's something like I'm 24.
Speaker 2:I'll be 25 and I'll be a bank manager or some shit and like how old is our main character.
Speaker 3:Like. The two that end up together clearly are peers and he is like it's. I did not. The fact that that was like supposed to be a viable competitive competition for Billy or whatever it's famous, is kind of comical to me. And what does that add to the list?
Speaker 1:So good, good call. That was not even the cameo. There are two that are easy to miss. One is much more easy to miss. Much easier to miss is Steven Spielberg. Hmm, yes, didn't see it. So, Amanda, do you remember that scene you mentioned? Why? Why would this happen on Christmas Eve? Like where? What do you remember the phone call that happens?
Speaker 3:The phone call.
Speaker 1:Like the yeah, oh, the connection.
Speaker 3:Is he like looking at the robot behind him? No, at some point when he's in the bicycle.
Speaker 1:Remember the bicycle that rides by the like.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, it's this low profile bicycle that drives by.
Speaker 1:Okay, and it's Steven Spielberg, and you can tell because he's got like a sprained foot and it's in a cast.
Speaker 3:And that's so funny. That's not a.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to say that that's not a cameo. If you ride by on a bike in the background, that's not a cameo.
Speaker 1:All right, your background for a day.
Speaker 2:That's not a cameo, no that's a cameo.
Speaker 1:No, he's not in the background, he comes in the foreground.
Speaker 3:The Technically the foreground. But it's funny because there's a background actor in that scene that I definitely clocked and I wasn't sure if there was any reason to it and find out there isn't. But he's like behind him in that phone booth and he kind of I guess it was just really good background acting work kudos to whoever that was. But they like like kind of stop and look at the robot and it's all. It's all could just be nothing. But you're also going like are they trying to showcase that background after? I'm not sure, and so I thought maybe that was what you're, but no, I noticed more than a bicycle.
Speaker 1:Was this the guy with the button down, with a tie?
Speaker 3:Maybe I don't remember what he was wearing.
Speaker 1:If that was the guy, then that's actually. He's not a cameo, but he's actually dressed as, I think, Joe Dante the.
Speaker 3:How do you know that?
Speaker 1:So it was just you know you just know all the things.
Speaker 3:Well, you know I get bored. Okay, what's the other cameo?
Speaker 1:Oh, this one I did not clock and this was definitely some commentary that led me here was Chuck Jones. So we know, like the director, of Looney Tunes. Chuck Jones. Yes, exactly the Chuck Jones from all the. Looney Tunes, uh-huh.
Speaker 2:Father of physical comedy.
Speaker 1:Yes, he is sitting next to Billy, remember. And the first time we see Billy in the bar and he's drawing his little illustrations.
Speaker 2:Yes, that old man. And he says like I knew she's never looked better or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yes. And he's the dragon that has his. Deagle's face on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's Chuck Jones complimenting Billy. Yeah, because that's the fact that he was an artist was apparently a bigger part of the story, but the rough cut was two hours and 45 minutes.
Speaker 3:I was going to say I don't even really remember that. That's crazy.
Speaker 1:And that's yeah, that's Chuck Jones, which I thought was Was just pretty awesome, and I mean there's, there's great people that you don't really notice, but um, but anyway, I would say, as we're wrapping up, um, for each of you and Amanda, I'll start with you and qualify this, or you don't have to qualify this upon rewatch, and I know that's a different ask for you Does this movie hold up?
Speaker 3:So this is very interesting for me and I thought this is kind of a worthwhile takeaway given my history with it. It for me it couldn't have been two more different films than my perspective. You know, the first time I watched it I I've been terrified of anything else that's been coming my whole life. So this is what I thought it was to be watching it as an almost 40 year old woman, uh, with a child of her own at same age. It's so interesting life, how it comes full circle. But it couldn't have been a more different film and I just thought that that was a really cool look on perspective and how perspective is just everything it's. I couldn't have had more fun watching it this time around, like I couldn't have been less scared, I couldn't have been more adm admirable, to her admirable, and I couldn't have admired the puppeteering work more and the special effects more than I did. Like there was so much to take from it that I would have.
Speaker 3:That is the opposite of what I thought this movie to be. So I thought that was, I don't know. There was just a unique experience to rewatch it that way and a nice metaphor for my life, just to be like I mean, yeah, I know we're talking about a three year old. This is a long gap. It's not like, oh, when I watched it 10 years ago and how I've changed whatever, it's like a fairy. But but imagine watching this from a child's eyes versus an adult's eyes, like those.
Speaker 3:Just the difference of perspective in those two things is just the beauty of filmmaking in a way, like how that kind of affects each unique individual experience so drastically different. Is is kind of the responsibility we hold as filmmakers as well. Like I just I was kind of just fascinated by that, but I do. I will say that it holds up for me in just a completely different way. Like I I can't compare the two movie watching experiences, they couldn't be more different. But watching it like objectively as I am now, I loved it so much, given all of the shit talk we have done, and maybe that's what made it like so fun for me is being able to watch it with like a keen eye at this point in my life, like just noticing all of these things was so enjoyable and I, I, uh, I truly just I couldn't have had more fun rewatching it. So I say for that reason it holds up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for me, I got it, that made sense. I got to piggyback on that and just say that for me I've never seen it, so until yesterday I watched it. As you know, the late 30s adult, and so I'm seeing it through different eyes and probably do when I was younger. But this movie is fucking great. It is definitely a family movie. It's not that scary. I wouldn't show it to a kid under like eight 10, you know what I mean. I think that's probably like a probably appropriate age to see it.
Speaker 3:Thanks, steve, you're welcome. I did that for my three. It's fine, okay. No, I think you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like for me. I'm just saying I don't think there's anything.
Speaker 3:I'm going to prison, it's fine. I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
Speaker 2:I just don't think they'll appreciate it. You know what I mean. Like it's a fun, fun movie. I 100% love this movie. I'm all in on it. The things that are wrong about it are wrong in the right way and it's just. It's one of those movies that is just the right. It's the right mixture of batshit, crazy and fun, and it just is. This is a Christmas movie. Watch this at Christmas. Of 100%, I'm going to say it holds up and you should definitely watch it.
Speaker 1:Awesome.
Speaker 3:That being said, but the creature work is terrifying, like the creature work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, some of the creature close ups, yeah, are scary. They're creepy, we're calling creepy.
Speaker 3:Talking about, but from a kid's perspective I will. I say that, like, rewatching, I was like, no wonder, I was terrified Like, and also, as a mother, terrified sharing it, exposing my son to it, it all being like, oh my gosh, like he has contacts right now, but these images alone might scare the shit out of him because they're like so well done. So there is that weird like combination of effects there, right, like it's not scary at all, there's no threat. At the same time, like just the imagery alone can be quite creepily terrifying, given whatever the whoever the audience is. Yeah, yeah, I think that's.
Speaker 1:It's just to kind of, you know, circle into what you both have been saying. I think it does. What's so amazing is it allows a rewatch with very different eyes. You know, and as a kid I mean, I was I was terrified. I absolutely like Gizmo. I'm we mentioned this in the in the discussion. I'm so glad the decision was to keep Gizmo because I remember seeing him through the movie kept me grounded. As long as Gizmo was okay, I felt okay.
Speaker 3:How old were you when you first saw it?
Speaker 1:Oh, I mean I probably, I was probably seven or eight, yeah, cause I haven't. You know, I have an older brother and I can't remember. He'll like he'll definitely correct me cause I, he always got mad if I got to see stuff that he couldn't have seen. You know, even if it wasn't that it, you know that and and rightfully so, I understand but, and he may have, I may have watched it with him. It may have been one of those like we went to blockbuster and you know, and I, I wanted to watch it.
Speaker 1:I wanted to watch it and I'm sure I could see my brother going sure, um, but uh, anyway, I think it's Interesting thing is that I have to.
Speaker 3:I want to say something about Gizmo because of your experience and how he was a grounding thing for you. For me, I didn't remember him being good throughout because I was too young when I watched it. So like in my my like figure that I've had my whole life of of these creatures has also included Gizmo, because I think in my perspective as a three year old, I was like are they the same? Like the, the cute, cuddly, soft, furry guy that we love turns into these other guys and so he was also a part of the creep factor, if that makes sense. So rewatching it and saying that he's a good guy the whole time, like I as an adult, was like thank you God, like I can correct that fear that I've had or that like attachment that I've had, that like uh, inside, but it makes me feel and now Gizmo can just be like sweet, loving Gizmo that I love and no longer be attached and they're like two very separate things. But as a kid I did not have that experience.
Speaker 2:So dude are you? Telling me this podcast did something for the good of humanity.
Speaker 3:I did. It made me less fearful in my life. It was cute cuddly things.
Speaker 2:This is early on, but, matt, we might just have to wrap it up. We might just have to call it right here. This might be the end of the whole thing and into the whole. Thing.
Speaker 1:Yes, this is it. We are now happy hour. Flicks therapy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good night and good luck. It's like thank you, Like we've done our one good deed in the world. It's all going to go downhill from now.
Speaker 1:That's right. I'm grateful for it. To quote our moral level in the movie Mr Futterman we have reached our zenith, oh there it goes, there we go.
Speaker 3:Yes, that shit my meat Right.
Speaker 1:Um well, uh well, amanda, thank you so much for doing this with us, and you and illuminating.
Speaker 3:We didn't have to talk about myself really at all. This is fantastic. So please, with the outcome, I mean I probably said clocked like 100 times too many, However long it's been, but you know it was accurate to what we were talking about, so I won't get too hard.
Speaker 2:I said Lord of the Rings too many times, which was one. Amazed that you made a Lord of the Rings comparison to gremlins.
Speaker 3:I think that might just go down.
Speaker 2:I don't know, that was pretty incredible.
Speaker 1:For sure To our listeners, that should be our two on bingo Um. On my references random things in a pod.
Speaker 3:Yes, okay.
Speaker 1:Um, so, but uh, anyway, um, as, as we sign off here, Amanda, as our listeners want to follow you on socials, um, oh, yeah, and what do you have going on?
Speaker 2:What's going on with you?
Speaker 3:Uh, uh, uh uh. On socials, I think I'm a K A Amanda Fuller. Um, I am about to start my own podcast. Yes, tell us.
Speaker 1:Yes, tell us, this is amazing. I'm very excited.
Speaker 3:I um I have a long time life warrior of endometriosis, which is a very Um misdiagnosed, underfunded, under researched disease that affects, uh so much of our population. And so, and now that I've gone through some my own battle with it and continue to, I realized how important it is to get some more exposure out there on it and start to tell, and I'm excited to be able to share some stories of those who are affected by it and and experts, interview experts, so that we can all, um anyone dealing with it can get help quicker and live better lives quicker. So I'm throwing a podcast it's called that endopod. I'm supposed to release my first episode, which is my own personal story, on June 27th. I have no idea what I'm doing, so thanks you guys for inviting me to be a guest today so I can test my waters.
Speaker 3:I've been a writer before, but it's been a while, so this was a good uh reintroduction for me. Um, and that, yeah, that I'm also writing. I'm not, you know, technically getting paid for any writing work. Obviously there's a writer strike and I'm not a part of the WGA, but I'm trying to um get some of my own projects off the ground and if anyone is hiring actors for any roles. I'm available. There we go.
Speaker 2:Amanda, yes.
Speaker 3:We're enormous fans of you.
Speaker 2:Everybody should be an enormous fan of Amanda Fuller. She has so many great stories and does so much great work.
Speaker 3:Oh, and a certain little film called heard that I did last year should be getting released this year Somehow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll take that to my plug.
Speaker 1:I mean, you can look. I was going to say Steve, where can we find you? And what's going?
Speaker 2:on with you.
Speaker 1:I think we got a couple of films that Amanda wants to hear about.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So first film we have a film out right now called Buking Games, which is a concert documentary. It's available in the US right now, basically anywhere you can buy a film. It'll be hopefully we'll see where it goes from here to be available in your streamer sometime, probably later this fall. And then heard our horror movie that Amanda Fuller is also in and she's does an amazing, amazing job along with some really incredible performances. We are so, so blessed to have her in the film, as long as we will be there, that'll be coming out this fall. We don't exactly, can't say exactly what time or where at the moment, just because we don't know, but it is in the works for sometime, you know, october, september range, hopefully in theaters. So we will be able to talk about that soon. Matt Mundy, what you got going on, bro.
Speaker 1:Oh man, yeah, so find me at Mo Mundy, that's my social handle, and Mo Mundy V Matt Mundy. And of course also you know what is a buke, what is a gaze? Find out when you watch the movie buke and gaze. Just make sure you turn on your soundbar because it is a full on concert and full on documentary.
Speaker 3:So I can't wait. I was so sad to have missed that, to have not been in New York for that premiere, so it was a lot of fun. Yeah, it really was, and it does.
Speaker 1:And it does to it to and like I'm not overstating it at all, it is meant to be listened to as well as watched, like it is. This band has got a great sound and and and it's just, it's so. It's so great to, you know, watch the story unfold, but just like be immersed into the, to the music itself. That's why we want to start, you know, wanted to do the project to begin with, and then, of course, with her. So, yeah, we and I think somebody may have just mentioned there's some news coming around the corner we may have some post show notes, depending on when this is released, for you to listen to. And and then also, I've got. I've got some drinks to refill, and that's pretty much it here for that.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you, guys, it's been an awesome discussion. And all things gremlins and all things Christmas movies.
Speaker 3:I'm never watching it, I'm never going to.
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